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The Tory deal may have made it impossible to deport determined asylum seekers to Rwanda:
1. Make claim. (Accepted: stay in UK.)
2. Appeal. (Accepted: stay in UK.)
3. Deported to Rwanda.
4. Get Rwanda ID.
5. Make way back to UK.
6. UK can't deport to Rwanda because of Rwanda ID.

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You genuinely cannot make it up.
 
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Ah, I wasn't sure. I think they have also said that they haven't confirmed how many folk Rwanda will take so a lack of housing may not matter.

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MaC said:
news.stv.tv

John Swinney elected First Minister of Scotland after Holyrood vote

Scotland's seventh First Minister has been voted through by MSPs at the Scottish Parliament.
news.stv.tv news.stv.tv

John Swinney is the new First Minister of Scotland..

I am quietly pleased and reassured :D
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It's probably a good thing as it saves the SNP from a costly leadership contest but politicians are politicians: the reason the other pretenders didn't challenge him is because he has been designated as the fall guy... again.
The SNP have been in power for almost 30 years and have little to show for it. Scotland still has some significant social advantages over the rest of the UK but the coffers are empty, and Swinney is on a hiding to nothing at the next GE as he's likely to lose more than 1 MP through no fault of his own. That is when the pretenders will step forward.
 
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I'm happy to wait and see, and I have more confidence in my fellow Scots than to accept that we'll just wither.

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Saint-Just said:
It's probably a good thing as it saves the SNP from a costly leadership contest but politicians are politicians: the reason the other pretenders didn't challenge him is because he has been designated as the fall guy... again.
The SNP have been in power for almost 30 years and have little to show for it. Scotland still has some significant social advantages over the rest of the UK but the coffers are empty, and Swinney is on a hiding to nothing at the next GE as he's likely to lose more than 1 MP through no fault of his own. That is when the pretenders will step forward.
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17 years, the first 4 as a minority government, if you mean Holyrood. Swinney is a steady hand and therein lies the problem for most SNP members. We've been promised so much re independence and he is not the guy to deliver it which will drive members away.
 
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5teep said:
17 years, the first 4 as a minority government, if you mean Holyrood. Swinney is a steady hand and therein lies the problem for most SNP members. We've been promised so much re independence and he is not the guy to deliver it which will drive members away.
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Will anybody be able to deliver it?

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I think this Scotland is a very different Scotland from the one that Westminster thinks that it is.

I think Westminster is of the belief that they can just wait us out.

We're still ourselves, pro us.

We'll see what we see :) but I still see Saltires :D
 
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MaC said:
I think this Scotland is a very different Scotland from the one that Westminster thinks that it is.

I think Westminster is of the belief that they can just wait us out.

We're still ourselves, pro us.

We'll see what we see :) but I still see Saltires :D
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We could always just take it :)
 
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5teep said:
We could always just take it :)
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It's the neighbours. Mostly we get on fine, but I don't hand my housekeeping money to her and let her tell me what I can spend it on.
I don't let her decide my social care, my education, my religion, my law system, the future we choose, our aims and ambitions, or cherry pick my history.

Different country, but our ancestors agreed to be one kingdom, and under duress (and admittedly greed on the part of those who signed it) one parliament.
None of that made Scotland Scotlandshire.

I feel for the Welsh because their situation is even harder to break free from.
 
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I can sympathise to a point. Brittany was fully assimilated in France in 1547 when the Duke of Brittany Henri became King of France, but this final phase had effectively started when Anne, Duchess of Brittany after her father’s death, had to marry at 14 the King(s*) of France in 1491. Henri was effectively her grandson as her daughter Claude had to marry the French king too, her father’s cousin François 1er (you know him from his meeting with Henri VIII at the field of the Golden Cloth).
[* she married 2, Charles VIII and Louis XII after Charles’ death; Claude was Louis’ daughter]
Regardless, it took the French Revolution to quell the independence claims of the Duchy by dissolving the Breton parliament (and by shortening (by a head length :nod:) most of the French nobility).
This to say there is a distant parallel with your own history; the same is probably true for most provinces of any large country that makes Europe today.
 
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MaC said:
It's the neighbours. Mostly we get on fine, but I don't hand my housekeeping money to her and let her tell me what I can spend it on.
I don't let her decide my social care, my education, my religion, my law system, the future we choose, our aims and ambitions, or cherry pick my history.

Different country, but our ancestors agreed to be one kingdom, and under duress (and admittedly greed on the part of those who signed it) one parliament.
None of that made Scotland Scotlandshire.

I feel for the Welsh because their situation is even harder to break free from.
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The neighbours are well aware that they cannot afford to lose control of your housekeeping, or your water supplies or large supply of electricity, so they are going to do anything to prevent that.
 
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BorderReiver said:
The neighbours are well aware that they cannot afford to lose control of your housekeeping, or your water supplies or large supply of electricity, so they are going to do anything to prevent that.
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Who knows what people actually feel, but I think Wales, politically, understands its dependence on the distributed tax income from the SE of the UK. Though, that said, what Wales really misses is being in Europe and the massive and varied renewal income from there. Wouldn't like to be a Welsh farmer now; not that it was a life ambition. But, having whined consistently about the crushing yoke of European subsidies, and thereby helping to bring about the rhetoric of the rural Brexiteers, they now have to live with the shattering consequences.

Problem is that the people who benefit are the likes of Cargill and Sygenta
 
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